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This is part of a series of posts that highlight the gear the 200 top-ranked shooters in the Precision Rifle Series (PRS) are running in long-range rifle matches. (Learn about the Precision Rifle Series.) This group of competitors represents the best precision rifle shooters in the country.
This article is Part 1 of a 3-part series where I’ll focus on the reloading equipment and process these guys use to load their match ammo. Here is how I plan to publish this 3 part series:
- Reloading Presses & Dies (this article)
- Reloading Powder Scales
- Reloading Process & Each Step Performed
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This article will focus on the reloading press and reloading dies they use to handload their match ammo, including sizing dies and presses, as well as seating dies and presses.
How Many of The Pros Load Their Ammo?
When I surveyed these pro shooters, I asked if they handloaded their own ammo for most of their matches or if they used factory ammo or a custom loading service. Here are the results of that question:
97% of the shooters said they handloaded their own ammo! I’ll share more about what the other 3% use in an upcoming article, but this article will also discuss the reloading presses and dies that these guys use to load their match-grade ammo.
What Is “Good” PRS Match Ammo? What Kind of Precision Are We Talking About?
Consistency is everything when it comes to long-range shooting! Groups have to be relatively small, and muzzle velocity has to be very consistent.
Many veteran long-range shooters see the muzzle velocity consistency as one of the best indicators of ammo quality. Most people who are familiar with statistics believe Standard Deviation (SD) is the best measurement of muzzle velocity variation. In fact, Engleman says this plainly: “Extreme Spread (ES) is not a reliable statistical indicator. The best indicator of velocity variations is the standard deviation.” He goes on to explain, “The true extreme spread of a population is about 6 times the standard deviation.” To learn more about standard deviation and statistics of muzzle velocity, check out this article. I literally spent months writing that article in a way that even those who aren’t engineers or math nerds could understand because I feel like it’s important to know as a long-range shooter.
The table below is from ballistician Bryan Litz’s book Modern Advancements in Long Range Shooting Volume 2, and it provides a “summary of what kind of SDs are required to achieve certain long-range shooting goals in general terms”:
So, an SD of 15 fps results in roughly 15” of vertical dispersion at 1000 yards. That is likely enough to miss a target in a PRS match. A 10 fps SD results in about 10” of vertical dispersion at 1000 yards. While we aren’t typically shooting targets that are smaller than 1 MOA at 1000 yards, that assumes you broke the shot absolutely perfectly, your target range was dead nuts on, your ballistic solution was perfectly calibrated, and the adjustments on your scope’s elevation turret were also perfect. That is a lot of assumptions, which is why most of us who shoot PRS want our ammo to have single-digit SDs to be considered match-worthy. I personally would be okay with ammo that produced an SD of 7 or 8 fps or less, and I don’t think that would cause me to miss any shots at a match. Above that, I get uncomfortable. However, 5 fps is often seen as the gold standard among serious shooters – and lower is always better.
For context, the chart below shows ALL of the SDs reported by this group of top-ranked PRS shooters on my survey. Some cartridges make it easier to load ammo with lower SDs. So I also provided a more detailed breakdown of the SD these guys reported by cartridge, which you can read here.
85% of these shooters are producing ammo that has an SD of 7 fps or less! In fact, 66% are reporting an SD of 5 fps or less! That means these guys know how to produce some of the best handloads possible, which would only have 5” vertical dispersion at 1000 yards!
When it comes to group size, we aren’t necessarily talking about Benchrest rifle groups – but it still has to be precise. 80% of the top-ranked shooters report that their average 5-shot group size is 0.4 MOA or less, with 60% saying their rifle averages 0.3 MOA or less!
So the majority of these shooters say their ammo has an SD of 5 fps or less, and their rifle shoots groups that are 0.3 MOA or less! I hope that gives context for why this group of shooters should be considered experts when it comes to reloading! So, let’s look at what reloading equipment they use to produce extremely consistent ammo that is competitive at the highest levels.
Reloading Press for Sizing Brass
I specifically asked this group what reloading press they used for resizing brass and what reloading press they used for seating bullets because I wasn’t sure how many of them would use the same type of press for both. The chart below provides a breakdown of how many of these top-ranked shooters said they used the same kind of press for both operations and how many used a different brand for sizing than they did for seating:
65% of the pro shooters said they use the same type of press for both sizing and seating, but 35% said they use a different kind of press for seating. We’ll dive into that a little later in this article, but for now, let’s look at what kind of reloading press this group uses for resizing their brass for their match ammo:
The RCBS Rock Chucker reloading press was the most popular sizing press among this group, representing 28% of the 200 top-ranked shooters in the PRS. There were 8 shooters in the top 25 using an RCBS press for sizing, which meant it was also the most popular press among the guys at the very top, too. The RCBS Rock Chucker press seems to be the most common reloading press in existence, but it was interesting to see those at the very top of this list using it to compete at the highest levels of precision rifle shooting. What a compliment to RCBS’s timeless and affordable design! Many companies offer a press with a similar design or have tried to improve on it over the years, but the RCBS Rock Chucker is still the standard. The street price on the RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme press is only $210!
19% of these shooters said they used a Forster Co-Ax reloading press for sizing, including 5 among the top 25. Bill Marr at RifleShooter.com says, “The Co-Ax differs from most single-stage presses in two areas: the shell holder and die insert arrangement. Unlike my old Rock Chucker, you don’t need to invest in a series of different shell holders to work with cartridges; the reversible jaws simply open and close on most common cases without adjustment. Dies simply slide in and out of a notch in the front of a Forster press. No more screwing anything down to ensure your settings stay the same; simply lock the die’s lock ring around its body, adjust the die, and every time you take it in and out of the press, its setting stays exactly the same. This is my favorite part of the Co-Ax!” The Forster Co-Ax has a street price of $426.
There was also 19% using a Dillon press for sizing, including 4 of those in the top 25. Most of the other presses on this list are single-stage presses, but it’s likely this group used a Dillon progressive press. Switching cartridges can be complex (RifleShooter.com refers to switching cartridges on a Dillon 650/750 as “an engineering project”! 😉), but once it’s all setup you can crank out some ammo! I would suspect many of these shooters using a Dillon likely have a dedicated press for their match cartridge that they rarely (if ever) swap to do other cartridges. Most of these guys are likely running the Dillon XL-750, which is an updated version of the XL-650.
The highest-ranked shooter using a Dillon press for resizing brass was Ken Sanoski, who finished 8th overall in the 2023 PRS Open Division season standings. So, I reached out to Ken to ask about what kind of reloading setup he used for his match ammo. Here is what he told me:
“So, I use a Dillon 750 with a Mark 7 Autodrive setup. Honestly, it probably isn’t as consistent as a single-stage press, but I don’t think it makes a difference. It’s consistent enough for me! I typically measure a few when I get started to make sure it’s between 0.0015” and 0.0025” of shoulder bump – then I forget about it. I have around 24,000 cycles on it processing 6 Dasher brass, and I don’t recall checking the bump since I originally set up the die. I’m not much of a perfectionist when it comes to reloading. Honestly, I hate doing it, and my wife loads most of my ammo for me. So the automated setup the Autodrive/Dillon offers is perfect for me.” – Ken Sanoski, 8th Place in Open Division Season Rankings
Ken reported that his 6 Dasher has a 5 fps SD and an average 5-shot group of 0.5 MOA. Sanoski is one of the very best competitors in the world when it comes to precision rifle matches – so maybe we should spend less time perfecting ammo at the reloading bench and more time shooting! 😉
A setup like Ken mentioned with a Dillon 750 + Mark 7 Autodrive combo is priced at $3,963. I will add that while Ken does use a Dillon progressive press to resize his brass, he uses a K&M Arbor Press for seating bullets in his match ammo.
The Area 419 Zero Press had 18% of these shooters using it overall, including 2 among the top 25. The Area 419 Zero Press was designed as a zero-compromise reloading tool. It is a turret-based reloading press that the manufacturer claims: “When indexing the turret, repeatability variance of the system will be less than .0005″. I won’t go into all the details, but the design is pretty insane. But, zero compromises led to a price tag of $1,275 – which makes it the most expensive single-stage press by a long shot.
7% of these top-ranked PRS shooters said they used a Hornady reloading press for sizing, but none of those were in the top 25. Hornady makes a few different kinds of presses, from a classic, single-stage press that is similar to the RCBS Rock Chucker to an advanced progressive press. Unfortunately, I didn’t ask these guys what model they were using. The Hornady Lock-N-Load Classic Reloading Press starts at $192, but they make setups that range all the way up to the Hornady Lock-N-Load Ammo Plant at $1,678 – and several other price points in between.
Redding reloading presses had 5% represented overall, with 2 in the top 25. Redding is an extremely popular die manufacturer, so it’s not surprising to see several of these pro shooters using a Redding press. Redding makes several types of presses. The Redding T-7 Turret Press is a very popular option and was what Area 419 staff were using for years before they developed the Area 419 Zero Press. The guys at Area 419 are very big on tooling, and the Redding T7 press is what made them such big fans of a turret press design. So if you can’t swing the $1275 for the Area 419 Zero, the $395 Redding T-7 Turret Press might be a great alternative. Another popular option is the Redding Big Boss II Single-Stage press for $295, which is basically an improved version of the RCBS Rock Chucker. Last year, I interviewed two-time PRS Champion Austin Orgain and asked about his reloading setup and process. Orgain uses a Redding Big Boss 2 Press with the Inline Fabrication Case Ejection System (his setup is shown below). Read about Austin Orgain’s full reloading setup and process.
Lee had 2% overall but had 2 in the top 25! One of those in the top 10 using a Lee press was Austin Buschman, who recently won his 2nd IPRF World Championship. Buschman was also the 2022 PRS Champion. Last year, I interviewed Buschman about his complete reloading setup (shown below), and he explained it in detail, including why he loved his Lee 4-Hole Classic Turret Press. Honestly, Buschman’s whole approach to reloading was fascinating, and you can read that here.
The MEC Marksman Reloading Press, German-Made Präzipress, Mark 7 Commercial Reloading Press, and Frankford Arsenal all had 1% of these shooters, but none of those were in the top 25. One shooter who was using the Frankford Arsenal specifically said it was the “Frankford Arsenal M-Press Coaxial,” which looks like a similar design to the Forster CoAx.
Pro Tip: Inline Fabrication’s Case Ejection system is an accessory that can be added to most reloading presses, and it will effectively double your throughput when sizing brass. This system ejects your cases from the press for you, allowing you to leave your right hand on the press lever and your left hand dedicated to feeding brass. The ejector parts for most presses are around $40, or you could buy a kit that includes a mounting system with bins for $60. I’d say it might be the best money I’ve ever spent on reloading equipment! I literally won’t own a single-stage press that doesn’t have an option for this accessory because it is a game-changer.
They also make the reloading press stands called the Ultramount that you see in many of the photos in this article, which get the press closer to eye level. Honestly, they make a ton of great accessories for those of us that reload. They’re of no affiliation to PRB, and I don’t even know the guys – but I buy a lot of their stuff! 😉
Best Sizing Dies
Before we dive into the sizing dies, I will say that 94% of these top-ranked shooters full-length size their brass every time. There are other precision rifle disciplines that might only neck-size their brass, but keep in mind that all of these matches are in field conditions (not indoors or even off a bench on a square range). Many matches can get pretty dusty, so having ammo that has adequate clearance to chamber reliably is one of the highest priorities. I plan to provide a more detailed breakdown in an upcoming article, which will focus on their reloading process, but I thought that was worth mentioning here, too.
Now let’s look at what brand of sizing die these top-ranked shooters are using for their match ammo:
There was a staggering 43% of these top-ranked PRS shooters using a Short Action Customs (SAC) modular sizing die, including 50% of those in the top 10 and 52% of the top 25!
SAC dies have a very unique die design. PRS Champ and two-time IPRF World Champion Austin Buschman says this about them: “I like that the SAC die sizes just the perfect amount all the way down to the base of the case,” Austin said. Different brands of dies vary in terms of how much they size the case closer to the base. SAC explains, “Our modular sizing dies sizes more at the base and less at the shoulder compared to traditional resizing dies.”
Buschman: “The SAC sizing dies also have a neck/shoulder bushing, which seems like a cool idea.” A die bushing allows you to fine-tune or customize how much it sizes the neck of the case. Most other bushing dies, like Redding or Whidden, only have a bushing that sizes the neck. Often, that means the neck bushing doesn’t size 10% of the way to the neck/shoulder junction. But, the SAC die bushing sizes the neck and shoulder with one integral bushing, so it sizes 100% of the neck.
Austin Buschman full-length sizes his brass using this SAC die and bumps the case shoulder back 0.003” every time he reloads a case. Buschman: “I shoot a lot of dusty, dirty matches in Oklahoma, and if you get a little bit of dust in your chamber and your brass isn’t sized quite a bit, you just can’t always close the chamber on it.” When it comes to reloading ammo, Austin’s highest priority is reliability. (Read about Austin Buschman’s complete reloading process and equipment.)
SAC modular sizing dies are priced at $295. That price includes 1 neck/shoulder bushing size of your choosing. Additional bushings are $40 each.
17% of these pros use Redding sizing dies, including 4 in the top 25. The Redding Full-Length Bushing Sizing Die (shown next to the SAC die in the diagram above) was the gold standard for sizing dies among competitive PRS shooters for the longest time. While new brands and designs have entered the market over the past 3 years, it’s not surprising to see Redding still well-represented. These Redding full-length bushing dies have a street price of around $82, but they don’t come with a bushing. So you need to add $13-40 per bushing. So, while $82 sounds cheap, you’ll likely drop around $100-120.
11% were using Bullet Central Micron Precision bushing sizing dies, including 3 in the top 25. This is another relatively new design. Two-time PRS Champion Austin Orgain told me that he’s used several different kinds of dies over the years but said he’s recently started using the Micron Precision Bushing Sizing Dies from Bullet Central. Orgain: “I’ve been really liking those dies. They seem really well built and are nice dies. I will use those to decap and full-length size a case in one operation.” (Read more about Orgain’s reloading equipment and process, including more on these Micron Bushing Sizing dies.)
Micron Precision Bushing Sizing Dies from Bullet Central are priced at $275.
Those 3 brands (Short Action Customs modular sizing dies, Redding dies, and Bullet Central’s Micron Precision dies) represent what 71% of these top-ranked shooters were using. Behind those, there were a few shooters using these other brands of sizing dies:
- 8% RCBS sizing dies
- 7% Forster sizing dies
- 5% Whidden sizing dies
- 3% Hornady sizing dies
- 2% LE Wilson sizing dies
- 2% Custom sizing dies (none within the top 50)
- 1% Harrell’s sizing dies (none within the top 50)
- 1% Area 419 Zero M-Series sizing dies (none within the top 50)
Best Reloading Press for Seating
Let’s move on to the reloading equipment they use to seat their bullets. I specifically asked what press they use for seating bullets because I was curious how many shooters were using an arbor press.
What is an arbor press? An arbor reloading press is a specialized tool used primarily by Benchrest and long-range shooters to seat bullets with extreme consistency and accuracy. Unlike traditional reloading presses, arbor presses use a simple “arbor” (or lever) mechanism, applying precise downward pressure directly on the die. Compared to traditional reloading presses, an arbor press setup is simple and minimalistic, which many believe reduces the potential for error and helps produce more uniform rounds.
The chart below shows what reloading press these guys said they were using to seat the bullets in their match ammo:
20% were using an RCBS Rock Chucker reloading press for seating bullets, including 2 in the top 25. It’s a little interesting to see that 28% of these shooters use an RCBS press for sizing, but 8% less are used for seating. When I analyzed the 8% who said they used an RCBS press for sizing but a different press for seating, it looks like most of those switched to one of the arbor presses for seating (i.e., K&M, Sinclair, Luman, LE Wilson, AMP, or 21st Century).
Only 2% behind RCBS was the Forster Co-Ax reloading press, which 18% of these shooters were using, including 8 in the top 25. That makes them the most popular reloading press for seating among those at the very top of the leaderboard.
17% were using the Area 419 Zero Press for seating bullets, including 2 in the top 25.
11% were using a Dillon press to seat bullets, including 1 in the top 25.
8% were using a K&M Arbor Press to seat bullets, including 4 in the top 25. That makes the K&M Arbor Press the most popular arbor press among this group. One of those shooters was in the top 10 (#8 Ken Sanoski).
One interesting note from my interview last year with Austin Orgain is that he said he had been switching between seating bullets on a couple of different presses: a K&M Precision Arbor Press and a Forster Co-Ax Reloading Press: “I’ve been using a Wilson bullet seating die with my arbor press for my 25 GT ammo, which is what I’ve been running lately at competitions. For my 6 Dasher, I sometimes load it on an arbor press and sometimes seat my bullets using a Forster Coax. You can feel the seating pressure a lot easier with an arbor press – but I can’t say that I’ve noticed any difference in terms of accuracy or consistency from the ammo I seated with an arbor press or my Forster Co-Ax.”
7% were using a 21st Century Shooting Arbor Press, including 1 in the top 25.
The brands above represented what 80% of these pro-level shooters were using, but the remaining shooters were spread over several other presses:
- 5% Hornady Reloading Press
- 4% Redding Reloading Press (includes 1 in top 10)
- 3% Sinclair Arbor Press (includes 1 in top 10 + 1 in top 25)
- 1% Lee Reloading Press (includes 1 in top 10)
- 1% AMP Press (this is an arbor press)
- 1% Frankford Arsenal Reloading Press
- 1% MEC Marksman Reloading Press
- 1% Lyman Reloading Press
- 1% Short Action Customs Nexus Reloading Press
- 1% LE Wilson Reloading Press
Based on all of that data, it looks like around 20% of these shooters use an arbor press to seat their bullets. There are also very few who use a progressive press. The overwhelming majority use a single-stage reloading press to seat their bullets.
Best Reloading Seating Dies
26% of these top-ranked shooters were running a Short Action Customs seating die to make their match ammo, including 4 in the top 25. That means Short Action Customs dies were the most popular sizing AND seating die!
SAC named this “The” Seating Die. You must be pretty confident to name a product that! Here is what they say:
“The” Seating Die is designed to be the ONLY bullet seating die you will ever need for a family of cartridge bodies. Imagine being able to easily and precisely being able to seat bullets from a 22 Creedmoor, 6 BR, 6.5 Creedmoor, and 308 Winchester, all with the same die. Or a 6.5 SAUM, 28 Nosler, and a 300 RUM with the same die. “The” Seating Die will be your one-stop shop for a family of cartridges.
Basically, you can buy one seating die that can fit multiple cartridges with the same body diameter. Each die comes with a few different stems and spacers that you can mix and match to seat bullets for any of the cartridges in that family. Here are two examples of popular seating die types along with the cartridges the same die could be used for:
| Type 4 (Any 308 Win Based Cartridges with .480″ body diameter) 22 / 6 / 25 / 30 BR 22 / 6 / 25 BRA 22 / 6 / 25 BRX 22 / 6 / 25 Dasher 22 / 6 / 25 / 6.5 / 30 x 47 Lapua 22 / 6 / 25 / 30 GT 22 / 6 / 25 / 6.5 / 7 / 30 Creedmoor 22-243 / 243 / 260 / 7mm-08 / 308 Winchester 6XC .303 British 22-250 8.6 Blackout | Type 6 (Belted Magnums and PRCs with .535″ body diameter) 300 Winchester Magnum 7 Remington Magnum 6.5 PRC 7 PRC 300 PRC 7 LRM 264 Winchester Magnum 264 Weatherby Magnum 270 Weatherby Magnum 7 Weatherby Magnum 300 Weatherby Magnum |
SAC’s “The” Seating Die includes a Mitutoyo micrometer to finely adjust your bullet seating depth. Mitutoyo is seen by many as one of the premier manufacturers when it comes to precision tools. SAC leverages several technical strategies to ensure the die has a very concentric and true assembly.
SAC’s seating die is priced at $375.
The 2nd most popular brand of seating dies used by these pro shooters was Redding seating dies at 18%, including 2 in the top 25. While I didn’t ask what specific model they used, I’d bet virtually all of them were using a Redding Competition seating die, which has a built-in micrometer to make fine and precise adjustments to bullet seating depth. Redding Competition Seater Dies have a street price from $158 to $245, which varies from cartridge to cartridge based on popularity.
15% were using an LE Wilson Bullet Seater die, including 6 in the top 25 – making it the most popular seating die among those in the top 25. Two of those shooters were actually in the top 10. This is the most popular die that is used with an arbor press and is considered by many as the gold standard for seating bullets on an arbor press.
13% were using Forster seating dies, including 5 in the top 25.
11% were using RCBS seating dies, but none of those were in the top 25.
The brands above represent what 83% of these shooters were using, and the remaining 17% were spread over a variety of brands of seating dies:
- 5% Bullet Central Micron Precision Seating Dies (Including 1 in the top 10)
- 4% Whidden Micrometer Seating Dies (Including 1 in the top 10)
- 4% Hornady Seating Dies (None in the top 25)
- 2% Custom Seating Dies (1 in the top 10 and another in the top 25. They didn’t specify what type of custom die it was.)
- 1% Harrell’s Seating Dies (1 in the top 10)
- 1% Frankford Arsenal Seating Dies (None in the top 25)
Coming Up Next
If you enjoyed this content, I’ve already pushed dozens of articles just like it! Check out the other “What The Pros Use” articles that have already been published this year.
As mentioned, this was Part 1 of a 3-part series where I’ll focus on the reloading equipment and process these guys use to load their match ammo. Stay tuned for the next 2 installments, which will be published very soon:
- Reloading Presses & Dies (this article)
- Reloading Powder Scales
- Reloading Process & Each Step Performed
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Hi Cal,
You did not mentioned if some competitors were using a mandrel to uniform the inside of their case necks after full length sizing? Will that feature in a future article ?
Hey, Nicolas. Yes, that will be in Part 3 of this little mini series on reloading. I will do a deep-dive into the reloading steps that each of these guys take. I asked them questions about whether they did each of the operations below, and not just if they do it – but do they do it every time or do they only do it once per batch or once every few reloads.
I felt like that was pretty comprehensive, and the results are VERY interesting. I bet there are a few surprises in there for people. I even noticed a few slight differences between the percentages that do a certain operation who finished in the top 25 and those who finished 26-200. That includes who runs a neck mandrel. Do you think a higher percentage of the top 25 shooters run a neck mandrel than the rest of this group of top-ranked shooters?
Thanks,
Cal
It’s interesting that so many competition shooters use a Rockchucker as it’s been around for decades. RCBS sure did something right with that press.
I agree, Jon. I was honestly surprised to see that. At the same time, that is the only press that I own. I actually own two RCBS Rock Chuckers and use them all the time! And it’s not that I’m a cheapskate. I run a Prometheus powder scale that cost me over $4,000, and my AMP annealer with the AMP Mate robot was around $2,000. But, I could tell you exactly what those things do that my previous equipment couldn’t. With the Rock Chucker … I’m not sure what I’d be gaining (if anything) by switching to another press. I’ve certainly read about the Area 419 Zero or Forster Co-Ax or the Dillon 750 or the Redding T-7 Turret press – but I’m not sure I’d see any measurable improvement to my ammo. Like most of these other shooters I’m getting 5 fps SDs and 0.3 MOA groups. I don’t think dropping $1,300 on a fancy press will buy me anything in terms of performance. I think if you use good dies in an RCBS press, you are at least 99.9% of the way there – and maybe even 100%.
I do think RCBS hit a home run with that press design. According to ChatGPT, “The RCBS Rock Chucker reloading press was introduced in the 1960s.” That means the basic design is probably 60 years old! What else is on a modern, high-end reloading bench that was designed 60 years ago?! Kind of nuts!
Here is a look at my personal reloading setup, and you can see I’m rocking the RCBS Rock Chuckers on both my brass prep side and my loading side of the bench.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Cal
Cal, I’m about to purchase reloading equipment, but I’m new to this. I’ve been asking guys what equipment they recommend for the best results. Of course, there are a variety of responses. I don’t mind investing in top-of-the-line equipment (I’ve been saving for that purchase), but being new to this makes an informed buying decision very difficult. Then arrives your series on the subject. Perfect timing for me and very much appreciated. I’ve benefited from your previous series as well. I’m confident I can avoid making buying mistakes if I lean toward purchasing what the top tier of shooters are using. Perhaps you already know, but it will be interesting to me to know what the total investment will be after adding up all the “most used equipment” in each category. If you don’t plan to provide that information, do you have a ballpark number (or I can wait for the remaining information and make a total myself)? Well done, Cal. Thank you.
Hey, Robin. Glad the timing worked out perfectly for you! 😉
That’s a good suggestion. I hadn’t planned to sum up the most popular reloading equipment setup, but I’ll make sure to do that. If I quickly estimate what the most popular options are among this group + the other essential gear in the brands they likely use (but I didn’t ask about), the total for essential reloading equipment is around $2,400 before tax and shipping. That is street price and not necessarily MSRP. That includes a press, shellholders, SAC modular sizing die, SAC “The” Seating Die, powder dispenser and scale (that I’ll reveal in the next post), vibratory tumbler, and Mituyoyo calipers. I’d say that represents buying stuff that you wouldn’t ever have to “upgrade” unless you wanted to, and you could complete all the necessary basic operations with.
Many of these guys also anneal and use a power trimmer and some other specialized equipment that you don’t necessarily need day 1, but can make life easier or ammo slightly more consistent. All of that stuff adds up to another $3,000. So I’d say if you want a setup like what would be the popular options among this group of shooters, my quick cost estimate would be around $5,400. I’m sure there might be a few things I’m missing, and I’ll also say that is basically the cost for the initial setup for one cartridge. If you wanted to be able to load for 3-4 cartridges, the cost would go up … but not necessarily by thousands.
I’ll try to provide a more detailed breakdown in one of the upcoming posts with more specifics. Thanks for the idea!
Thanks,
Cal
Very helpful. Thank you! I look forward to your next post.
Thanks for the write up.
I used to load most of my PRS ammo on a mix between a Forster Co-Ax and then a Zero.
After noticing my Dillon was just getting dusty as I decreased my pistol shooting and dedicated to more PRS shooting, I decided to switch to using the Dillon 750. Like Sanoski, I also added a Mark 7 autodrive.
It has made the most tremendous difference in my quality of life! Personally, between family and other obligations, I rather not sit at my bench processing or loading ammo. Necessary evil though to compete…
A combination of Dillon 750 + Autodrive + bullet feeder + dual Ingenuity Precision powder drops and I can load 300 rounds in 30-40 minutes (with most of my pausing due to filling up the case feeder and bullet hopper). Less time at the bench and more time with other life things.
(I deprime, size, prime, drop powder, and seat on the autodrive. Using SAC dies and The Seater for 6GT, the SD is usually 5-8. My only “hands on brass” moment is when trimming with a Henderson, when necessary)
It will be interesting to see how reloading technology improves in the next several years. With the introduction of the Zero and Nexus, I don’t necessarily think it will make better ammo but for anyone who has used them, the ergonomics are greatly improved over traditional presses. Now, with the increased use of automated machines, I hope we see more shooting with consistent ammo and less time at the bench.
Thanks for sharing, Dustin! Lots of good points in there. I do think the automated way is where a lot of this will go. Maybe I just haven’t tried the Zero and Nuxus enough to appreciate the improvement in ergonomics. But, I think your hope of seeing more shooting and less time at the bench would serve the overwhelming majority of people well. It’s funny how much we can fixate on perfecting ammo! Ken’s pragmatic approach (and Austin Buschman’s, too) is refreshing! Clearly you can still get world-class results in this game without spending a ton of time reloading! That’s a great thing for those of us with limited time!
Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts!
Cal
Hello, Quick question: when sharing ‘sd’ of v0. Do you know on how many shots this is calculated on? Statistically speaking measured sd is way under actual sd, especially when number of sample is low (< 20/30 sample).
Tldr : 5 fps over 5 shots is achievable. 5 fps over 30+ shots looks rediculously low 🙂
Fantastic question, Flo. I 100% agree with you. SD will almost always be understated when you aren’t using a sample size closer to 20 or 30. I actually wrote a whole article about the importance of that, and tried to frame it all in a way that even shooters who hate math and aren’t familiar with statistics could understand: Muzzle Velocity Stats – Statistics for Shooters Part 2.
While I’m a technical guy, and obviously you are too – not all of these top shooters are super-technical. They are very competent, but not all of them understand that importance of sample size when quantifying SD. Now these aren’t the guys that take photos of a super low SD and post it on Instagram … and you can see it was only 3 shots! They know more than that. I would bet that at least 90% of these guys are quoting the SD that they measured over a 10 shot string. So I’d expect the long-term average SD over a 30 shot string to be slightly higher than what they are reporting.
I didn’t explicitly specify how many shots should be in the string when I asked the question, because like I said, at least some of these guys would probably be confused by that. So I’m just reporting on whatever they replied to the question, which I’d expect to be over a 10-shot string for most of them.
I do know one of the guys that said 3 fps very well, and he understands the sample size thing. So I’m not saying that it’s not possible. He loads precision ammo professionally, so I guess I’m not shocked that he has found a way to produce ammo that consistent. I still bet he is saying what the average is over a 10-shot string though. So the long-term average might be closer to 5-6 fps.
Like I said, great question! I know I’m always hesitant to believe people when they spout off SD’s. This group of shooters is more technical than most, but I would say almost none of them are reporting what they did over a 30-shot string. So if that is what you’re looking for, maybe round up a few from what was reported.
Thanks,
Cal